YOU
have been in the industry for quite a
while now, what has been your
experience? The most outstanding is the fact that the industry in my
earlier years as an actress was a lot better than what it is right now,
especially when talking about creativity, content, technicalities and
professionalism. Yester years, we had trained practitioners in every
aspect of the business; we had professional consultations amongst the
bodies representing different aspects of the industry. We also had
critics monitoring and criticising both the works on the screen and the
stage because they would actually go and watch plays, soap operas,
films, etc; we used to have cinematic films. They would criticise to
give value to content, but today, what we have is bad creative content,
bad technical people, 20% of whom are trained and 80% are not and these
people are the ones resisting the concept of proper training. When you
are telling people the right thing in Nollywood, they ostracise you,
they do not want to work with you because of some kind of inferiority
complex and they give you a bad name. Eighty per cent of people who are
in the industry are not supposed to be there which wasn’t
what it
was
in my earlier years. Professionally in Nigeria, my experience has been
going from good to bad and bad to worse. I have had my best experiences
on stage because stage theatre acting has taken me all over the world
but the unfortunate situation that makes me sad today is that theatre
is dying in Nigeria because of the fact that there are no patrons.
Theatre is one that thrives and sustained by patronage
––nonprofit
sustenance but in Nigeria, it is all about profit.
Are you
saying that the industry is deteriorating despite the fact it is being
praised all over as the third largest movie making industry in the
world?
Yes, the industry is deteriorating and the most
pathetic aspect of it all is that Nollywood practitioners are
celebrating and getting carried away that Nollywood is the 3 rd
largest. Nollywood movies are being watched all over the world but by
whom? Are Nollywood films being watched by professional film makers in
the developed world who can move Nollywood forward? No! Are the people
watching Nollywood movies all over the world giving back to Nollywood?
Nollywood movies are being watched all over the world because
it’s
free; without the producers, all the actors and actresses, all the
other departments do not have anything to show for it! Anybody would
love to assess anything that is free! Nollywood films being watched all
over the world is not improving the technical content of Nollywood, it
is not improving the creative content of Nollywood, it has not seen
Nollywood films being nominated for international movie awards, it has
not seen Nollywood actors and actresses being invited to come and act
in Hollywood or European films. Rather, what we have are Nigerians in
America; some of them who are interested in filmmaking having been
inspired by Nollywood coming together to shoot a Nollywood film in
America; then you find Nollywood actors and actresses granting
interviews that they are going to America to shoot a movie or they are
going to Hollywood to shoot a movie. Are they going Hollywood to work
on a Hollywood movie? No single Nollywood actor or actress has gone to
Hollywood to act in a Hollywood movie. What they have gone to do, is to
act in movies being financed by Nigerians in America, so
let’s
get it
straight and stop fooling people. All the hullabaloo, all the third in
the world has not put anything back into the industry.
Do you have one or two words to say that can change the movie industry
for the better and move it to the next level?
First
and foremost, I have consistently said in the last two years that the
crux of the problem is the segmentation and tribalism in the industry.
Hollywood, Bollywood, the German movie industry are not tribalised but
the Nigerian movie industry is tribalised. You have
‘Kanowood’ in the
North, you have ‘Yoruwood’ –the Yoruba
movie
industry, you have the
Igbo movie industry parading itself as Nollywood and you have the Edo
State people within that Nollywood trying to carve out an
‘Edowood.’
The only way this thing can work is if there can only be one
actors’
union representing all the screen actors in Nigeria, and one
actors’
union representing all the stage actors in Nigeria, one single
directors’ union representing all the screen directors in
Nigeria
and
all the stage directors under one union. It is only if we have one
single body that we can unionise and that is when we can become
recognised as a viable commercial industry; that is when we can become
part of the private sector. But what has been negating this is the
standard of the Nigerian greed. The presidents of all these individual
guilds see their small associations as their little kingdoms from which
they can make their own money, so they do not want to listen to the
fact that all the actors must come together under a single umbrella
because Jide Kosoko, Ejike Asiegbu and whoever is in Kanowood will have
to go. There will have to be just one, maybe Olu Jacobs or Justus Esiri
as the head because these are veterans who have been members of those
unions outside this country. They know the way it’s done and
what
it’s
about and it’s only when it starts from that level and begins
to
graduate down after them, that people who will take SHE needs little or
no introduction when her name is mentioned. Clarion Chukwurah is a star
of repute in the Nigerian movie industry. In this interview, she opens
up to Sandra-Izuu Okafor on her personal experience as an actress and
her non-governmental organisation for the under-privileged, mentally
and physically challenged children.
‘I am very close to God; I
am a very religious person so I get my inspiration from God. I also get
my inspiration from my kids; my family is number one’ over
from
them
will be people of the same integrity. I have been a member of the
actors’ union in England before, so when I talk, I am talking
from
experience, I am talking about what I know; I am not talking about what
I am imagining or what I read but I am talking about what I have been a
part of.
The second step is, I want to use AfricaMagic as an
example because it opened the floodgates. In Uganda and Cameroon, they
have a particular station that the only content they have all through
the day are Nollywood films and they do not pay a dime. AfricaMagic
officially buys each Nigerian movie for a thousand dollar which is
about a hundred and twenty naira and they show those movies repeatedly
at least sixty times. In other words, they are paying an average of two
thousand naira for showing a movie that cost about three million naira
to make. Now tell me how Nollywood can move that way? Again before
AfricaMagic started showing Nollywood movies in 2003 December, before
they caught on in 2005 and 2006, I want to use myself as an example. My
fee in 2004, 2005 and 2006 is not what my fee is today; it has slumped
to fifty per cent of what it used to be and that is why I no longer do
as many movies as I was doing before because I refuse and one major
reason a lot of people don’t buy movies anymore is because
they
know
they are going to watch it on AfricaMagic . Now AfricaMagic pays a
thousand dollar to the producer and the producer does not care if they
show his or her movie a million times because he is not under a union
that has regulated how much or the minimum price he can sell his movie
to AfricaMagic . The actors and actresses he has used are not under any
union that has regulated a royalty into the contract that must be
signed by each actor to say that if you sell this movie to AfricaMagic,
for each showing, this is how much AfricaMagic must pay to the actor.
With that illustration, you can see how both the actors and the
producers are losing and why nothing is coming back to Nollywood
because of ignorance, greed and self-celebration. Also the press, who
rather than criticising like they were doing before to add value to the
industry are celebrating mediocrity. When I say the press, I mean the
gutter press, the soft sell newspapers; they have done a lot of damage
to the industry.
What led you to acting?
It was
Elizabeth Taylor in Cleopatra I watched when I was six years old at the
casino cinema with my father. He usually took me to the cinema and when
he wasn’t free, the driver took me and my brothers there.
While
watching the movie, I told my daddy that I wanted to be like Liz
Taylor. When I was in high school, I started doing school plays. I
wasn’t in high school wondering what I wanted to do, I had
known
right
from when I was six years old what I wanted to be and I was also
inspired by Michael Jackson.
Were there roles you had played in the past that you would not want to
delve into now?
Seriously,
there is only one role I have done in the past that I will not want to
do again. It was a role I hated myself after doing it. It was a movie
titled My Faithful Friend that I played the role of Ngozi
Ezeonu’s best
friend and her son, Desmond Elliot was in the university and came to
live with me. He fell in love with me; I began dating him, he insisted
and broke his mother’s heart that he was going to marry me;
meanwhile,
my ‘character’ had been dating her husband. So the
‘character ‘ended up
dating both father and son. It was crazy and to begin with, when the
script was sent to me I told the producer I wasn’t going to
do
it, I
told him it was just too much that the character is a bitch through and
through that I cannot forgive this person if I were Ngozi
Ezeonu’s
character. The producer said the director insisted that it must just be
me that ‘I am the only one who can portray and interpret this
role the
best way that he wants it.’ The director knew where I was
coming
from;
he knew I was coming from a stage background and I had perfected method
of acting, so he insisted I had to do it. In fact, when they paid my
fee into my account, I insisted on returning it to them and they had to
pay me an extra half of my fee. But of course ‘me being me
and
the
actress in me,’ I gave it my best shot.
Do tell us about one work experience you would not likely to forget in
a hurry?
One
work experience I am not likely to forget in a hurry was shooting the
movie Egg of Life because up till the night before I went on set I did
not have the character –the characterisation –it
was just
elusive and
all night, I did not sleep. I kept playing this Igbo gospel track to
inspire me; I called my son, Clarence, I said ‘listen, I do
not
have
this character’ and he said ‘mummy, don’t
worry, I
trust you and know
that when you step on set the character will come.’ When I
finally
stepped on set, my director said I should come up with my cry song for
that character, I drew the rhythm from the song I had listened to all
night and when I came out with the first cry, the character just came
and it began to rain. It rained cats and dogs and because it was an
epic, most of the upper parts of my body were exposed and at the end of
the day I contracted pneumonia; I lost my voice and I ran through the
rest of the shooting with pneumonia, with a cracked croaky voice and I
had to use the stage method for that role.
How do you g e t y o u r inspiration?
I
am very close to God; I am a very religious person so I get my
inspiration from God. I also get my inspiration from my kids; my family
is number one.
How do you feel about your son Clarence being the very popular and most
sought after musical video director at the moment?
He had no choice; this is just a tip of the iceberg, he
hasn’t
even started believe me because where he is going is very far.
Aside acting, what else do you do?
My
greatest passion aside acting is my foundation; it is the Clarion
Chukwurah Helpline Initiative, the work I do with, the less privileged
children and abused young women not abused only to rape but abused in
marriage through the female reproductive process. For the VVF, I
collaborate with the Grassroots Foundation in Abuja, the Kaya Africa in
Cameroon, also with the African Union in Ethiopia. For the less
privileged, I collaborate with the Laraba Shown Foundation in Abuja.
For the physically and mentally challenged, we are handling it a lot on
our own for now. For the less privileged children, we have three events
which take place on Children’s day; on the twenty seventh of
May
we
have the Entertainers Star Trek for the survival of the Nigerian Child.
On the first of October we have the special talent hunt in
collaboration with the Laraba Shown Foundation in Abuja, then every
December we have the annual Xmas events for the orphans and motherless
children which will take place on the seventeenth of December.
Who are your role models in the movie t h e industry?
T
h e t w o p e o p l e who have influenced me lately; not in my younger
years are not Nigerians. They are Angela Basset and Jodie Foster. The
only African who has influenced me is not an actor, her name is Gracia
Machel; that’s Nelson Mad nel a current wife.
What was growing up like for you?
Growing
was broken into two; the first eleven years of my life was fairyland
with ‘‘ my father and mother, then from eleven to
fifteen
was a
nightmare without my father. From fifteen, I became an adult because I
was in the midst of professors, I was in the midst of the likes of Jimi
Solanke, Sam Loco; people who had become professionals long before me
so I grew up very fast. I was having to hold my own, that’s
why
when
people say to me that I look younger than my age, it make me imagine
what Michael would have looked like if he hadn’t gone into
the
plastic
surgery thing because my story is almost like his. That childhood that
was taken away makes me always wanting to remain back there and daily
reliving it.
How do you catch your fun?
I catch my fun anyway I want depending on my mood.
What are your hobbies?
I
love going to the beach, taking long rides, listening to music,
dancing, reading; I’m a life-long history student. I love
traveling a
lot when I want to let go, it might sound very unpatriotic but Nigeria
is often not the place.
Your life as a well known actress must have affected your private life,
how do you cope?
Lately,
I decided to snatch back my private life, I will not answer questions
about my private life because I owe myself that. A lot of damage has
been done from prying into my private life and for the fact that I
can’t just decide to enter a place and eat there because the
kind
of
food like Amala and Gbegiri s o u p they sell there catch my fancy. I
cannot have my relationships without the guy being afraid that
he’s
going to make headline news and we having to be hiding and all that.
It’s been hell I tell you.
What do you have to say about the issue of piracy?
Piracy
is a global thing; it is an evil that has come to stay. The issue we
should be addressing in the Nigerian movie industry is not the issue of
piracy but the issue of royalties. The Copyright Commission in Nigeria
is doing nothing and it’s time the creative community come
together to
shut the copyright commission, unseat the administrators there and
fight to have people of integrity put in place.
Gratifying moment for you is what?
Gratifying
moments for me are those moments when I’m home with my kids
and I
am
running around in pants and bra chasing all of them and being the comic
relief in the house, rolling on the rug and all that. Also, each time I
had my darkest moment were the times I go through to the next level. So
now I have come to recognize it; in fact I ask for those moments
because I know that they mean I moving to the next level.
What would you not leave your home without?
My phones because that’s my mobile office; without my mobile
phone, I’m lost.
What would you not be caught dead wearing?
I
would not be caught dead wearing a different pant and a different bra.
They must go together, be of the same design and colour and they must
be Victoria Secrets.
