Along the line, I was looking for challenges. I just
wanted to do something that could…I wanted to be
different in a way.
Most actors then were not willing to get trained,
they were looking at the industry as a short cut to
success. Then you have riff-raffs who are not really
ready to make artistic statement. If you watch
Yoruba movies now, you'll get pissed off. Of course,
except in recent times, when Jide Kosoko became ANTP
president. He has been trying to make some changes.
But that is not to say there isn't some nice
productions from the sector. The likes of Kelani and
Wemimo have been doing a lot, don't you think so?
Wemimo started very recently. He came in earlier,
released Ododo Eye and went into politics, and then
he came back. Wemimo is not a trained movie maker.
He just came in to make money just like some others
who thought they've got money and could make more in
movie.
Most of them re making movies because they want to
eat. And movie-maaking shouldn't be like that. You
make a statement with movie. What's happening in
Iraq and Iran, Americans had already shot movies
about it years back. They're using their movies to
make a statement that, “this is America”. When I
couldn't realize my vision through the movie, I
decided to try it through television. So I started
Yotomi Television, which is an all Yoruba Channel.
I'm using Yotomi Television to make the Yoruba
entity interesting to the outside world.
I want people to say, I'd like to speak Yoruba
language.
How has it been so far?
It's been challenging and fun, too.
What problems have you encountered so far?
I don't have any problem. Anything that comes to me
in form of a challenge or a problem, I see it as a
stepping stone towards going for greater heights. I
must tell you, everything that I'm involved in, in
terms of entertainment, has been fun to me.
You know, you can't do it properly if you don't get
to correct one or two mistakes. And without
mistakes, there can't be perfection.
Your expectations have been fulfilled?
Definitely! I'm fulfilled.
How old is Yotomi?
We're just four years now.
There's this controversy surrounding the origin of
the home videos film in Nigeria. It is believed in
some quarters that Living In Bondage is the first
movie to come out of Nollywood.
It can't be! Living In Bondage? No, no, no! Go and
ask Kenneth Nnebue. Let me tell you, if you can
write it properly, Kenneth Nnebue had produced over
40 Yoruba movies before he even thought of producing
an Igbo movie. Living In Bondage is an Igbo movie.
It is an Igbo language movie. Probably they want to
claim that Living In Bondage is the first Igbo
movie. Before he dreamt of making that film, he had
produced 40 Yoruba films. He started with Aje Ni'ya
Mi. And there had been a flourishing movie industry
before he came on board. So how can you say he
started it.
So who produced the first home video?
I did! I pioneered the industry.
Could you mention the movie you started with?
Ekun. And it's the first Yoruba movie.
Back then, I remember watching one of your
productions entitles Esan at the Theatre. Would that
be one of your earliest movies?
No, Esan is a celluloid, it's not video.
Could you tell us about your background? What was
growing up like?
It was fun o. My father was somehow rich. He was a
senior civil servant in Ikoyi. He had some whitemen
as friends. And my mother would always tell us, if
you pass your exams, throughout the holidays you'll
be going to the cinema. You walk freely, no
stoppage, no barrier. It was all fun. We were then
in Lagos Island. I faced my studies squarely and I
never went beyond the fourth position. But whenever
we were in the third term, towards the long holiday,
I made sure I came first in class. I knew with that
I had a bonus of a long holiday, because coming out
tops in your class would guarantee you eating each
meal with three pieces of meat; you wouldn't be
involved in the washing of plates and you wouldn't
do any house chores. In fact, you'll be treated like
a king. My mother really used that in making sure
that we faced our studies. And anything they
promised, they fulfilled. I schooled in Isolo,
Awomama, in Imo State.
Why were you sent to Imo State?
Well, I was somehow rascal. My father had a friend
who was his colleague in the civil service in
Awomama. He sent me to go and stay with him. I was
there for two years. And everybody thought I was the
man's son who had returned from Lagos. You know, I
resemble Igbo. They'd speak Igbo to me and I'd say,
Kilo nse awon eleyi? (What's wrong with these ones?)
They never believed that a Yoruba boy could leave
Lagos to School in Igboland. I grew up like any
normal child and I enjoyed it.
When you were going into movie production, did you
see anyone as your mentor?
Yeah! There were two of them. One is an Indian,
Dhamendra. I loved him so much to the extent that
anytime we went to the cinema, I always wondered if
I could ever be seen on a big screen like him. I
just wanted to be seen on the screen. Then back
home, Bello (Adebayo Salami) is my role model, but I
never knew I'd later be competing with him.
You never got to like the Ogundes, the Olumegbons,
Duro-Ladipos and the rest of them?
My inspiration came from Ogunde. He had a shop next
to our house and one of his wives was even my aunt.
Anytime he came into Lagos in his Range Rover he
would always be in a woolen dress, the type Awo used
to wear, and you'd see him so clean. He was more
popular for music then than for drama. He had Ogunde
Records, and people were really buying his records.
When I returned from Germany, they said he was on
location shooting Aiye, and I had to go there. And I
began to see a different side of him, because I had
known him to be more into the Highlife kind of
music.
But Ogunde had always been very popular as an actor
Yes, I later researched into his works, he was not
really into metaphysical or traditional plays. The
ones he had been doing are the likes of Onimoto,
Yoruba Ronu and others which are political and
social oriented message productions. In fact, when
he came out with his celluloid films, Aiye,
Jaiyesinmi, Aropin N'teniyan and the rest of them, a
lot of people believed he had this black power. When
he came out with Aiye, and I saw the birds flying, I
said, Aaah; these are Scooby Doo birds! (laughs),
because I'm a movie person. But people said, Hey!
Come and see Ogunde he's shown the witchcraft birds.
So if was fun: we all owe our lineage to him.
Whatever….. he's the legend. The way he was making
his movies, nobody did in so Nigeria.
He shot on 35…, he'd bring white men from London and
America for his productions, but very unfortunately,
he died. Before he died, he was having a joint
production with a Hollywood producer, in the making
of Mr. Johnson. Had he outlived that, most of our
productions would have been in Hollywood now. We
don't have anybody to push us to that level, even up
till now. Tunde Kelani is trying though. The day I
went for a film festival in South Africa, I said,
Aaah! So this is how movies are really supposed to
be made (laughs), I'm going to stop until I can do
it like them.
Was that why you stopped?
Yes, I stopped and faced TV. And now, Yotomi has
got another channel called TV 3 Nigeria.
When did it take off?
We started about two years ago.
What's the station all about?
It's the normal channel like AIT and the rest of
them, but it's on the cable. But if you, by any
chance come across TV 3 Nigeria, you can forget
about the other channels. (laughs).
When would you call your most memorable day in the
industry?
Aaah! That's the day the first Yoruba video movie
was launched at the National Theatre. They never
believed what I was coming up with. We had to get a
very big projector and we beamed straight to the
wall. Already, people were expecting what they were
used to in celluloid. You know, when the first reel
finishes, you wait for about two, three minutes to
bring in another one.
But with video, it's non-stop. It ran from the
beginning to the end. And they could hear the sound
clearly and bee the picture also clearly. Someone
said, “Aaah! You have created another food for us to
begin to eat o! Home video?”
Aaah! Congratulations! That's coming to tell you
that you have achieved something. And we didn't
achieve that because we wanted to make money, like
most of them do now. All of them are after money.
You were once banned by the Association of Nigerian
Theatre Practitioners. How did you get off the hook?
I was never banned.
What happened?
That was when I started a talent hunt programme. At
that time they were expecting that I'd take
permission from them, but it wasn't really my
project but that of the TV Station. And I wasn't
even asking ANTP to come and partake in the project.
We were doing that with the possibility of
discovering fresh faces for the industry. They
believed that I didn't take permission and I told
them, No, we don't need permission from anybody. And
they had to use my brother, Uncle Jide Kosoko
against me. Eventually they suspended me but I never
saw any official letter to that effect, so I
believed I was not suspended.